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MG TD TF 1500 - Spin on filter

The adventure continues.......OK, I am finally getting around to putting a spin on oil filter adapter on the XPAG. Can/does anyone reccomend a Fram number to go with it? Thanks, Tom. ( OK Bob G., are you out there? :) )
Tom

I thaught that spin offs were a bad idea. Doesn't the XPAG piping mean the oil flows through the filter in the wrong direction. May be wrong but once again I'm certain someone will let us know.


Jan T
Jan Targosz

Jan,

Bob Grunau (cgrunau@pathcom.com) makes a spin-on filter adapter for both early and late model systems that work perfectly with the XPAG engines. I think that might be who Tom was referring to in the "( OK Bob G., are you out there? :)" sidebar in his message.

I don't have my car close by (reading this BB at work) or I could answer Tom's question myself. By the way, Bob's adapters not only work great, they look great (the early model one anyway), and they're priced within reason.

Gene

Gene Gillam

I second the recommendation of Bob Grunau's spin-on filter adapter. It is machined so the oil flows in the correct direction. I did need to bend slightly upward the bottom block-mounted bracket extension, so that it would contact the adapter. This may not be required with Bob's newer adapters.

I originally used Fram filters until I learned information which suggested they are not the best choice. Now I use a Wix 51361 oil filter.

For a very thorough examination of oil filters, see:

http://www.frankhunt.com/FRANK/corvette/articles/oilfilterstudy/oilfilterstudy.html

Larry
Larry Shoer

I bought a spin on oil filter adapter from MM and use a Fram TG 3600. Its made so that the oil goes the right way through the filter.
This is the only concession I have made to the originality of our TF as we drive it a lot.
colin stafford

Is the direction of oil flow critical? I probably don't drive my 50 TD over 500 miles per year (don't know for sure...the odometer is broken and this hasn't yet risen to the top of my priority list), but change the oil and filter every winter. However, the oil always is black, even with this low amount of driving. My suspicion (and of course I could be wrong) is that with the typical 50 year-old engine that probably never burned gas that cleanly even when new, the filtering isn't nearly as important as frequent oil changes. Comments?
Steve Markman

I installed the Moss spin on adapter last year, and am very satisfied with it, much easier and cleaner to change, and more efficient than the orig type, but could some one please explain what is the wrong way for the oil to flow, and why Bob Grunau's is better ??
Steve, '52TD
Steve

I note that the website I referenced above has traffic restrictions, so that the site may not always be reachable. A second location the oil filter study may be found is indicated below:

http://minimopar.net/oilfilterstudy.html

Larry
Larry Shoer

The adventure continues..........I love this BB! Not only did I get my question answered, but lots of food for thought as well. Thanks everyone! :) Tom
Tom

I just received my filter adapter from Bob G. He told me that he uses a PH3600 filter with his. The adapters that Bob makes for the TC's and Early TD's are works of art!!!! I should have changed over years ago.

Roger
Roger Thompson

Have had a spin-off on my TD MKII for several decades. Frankly, I can't remember (curse of the ages) where I originally acquired it. Currently, it is fitted-up with an MFI #W712 filter, as supplied by Rob Medynski @ MGT's. The cast housing for the filter has MOCAL cast into it and is also plumbed into my oil cooler. He has indicated that it is essentially a ?late 60's midget filter, (there was some reference to Harleys and an equivalent filter available through them). He has always stressed the need to be sure that the filter will allow the oil to flow properly. (Some filters have gasketing, or seals which impair/restrict the flow) As he has had filters for me to use, I have not had to do over the counter. Have not cross referenced the filters as of yet. Anyone needing info can e him at mrmg@optonline.net, AS OTHERS HAVE DONE, I ASSERT THAT I HAVE NO FINANCIAL INTERESTS IN MGT'S, but would refer anyone to him for assistance.

Also on the note of the Moss blowers, (faux Marshall 75s), I have an original fitted to my MKII. Rob did some installations of the Moss units and his primary observation was there was no outlet for the oil going in. When he set one up with a drain, 'enough to notice' metal could be seen in the out-flow. Caution guys.

Safety Fast
Paul
Paul

I can supply a spin-on filter adapter for the TC/Y/early TD and the late TD/TF to accept a modern spin-on filter. The TC/Y/early TD adapter replicates the top half of the original cannister and uses original oil lines, banjo bolts and block attachment. The adapter is cross drilled to allow correct flow through the spin-on filter. Anyone wants more information on my adapters please email me directly. Thanks.
Bob Grunau

Steve Markman......dirty oil (black) is good, this means the oil (dertergent oil) is cleaning the engine, and XPGA's are naturally dirty engines. A good filter will get out most of the bad stuff. I change oil about every 2000 miles anyway.
colin stafford

Colin...I never thought of black as good, just the way it is. It's been my assumption that most of the black comes from soot in the combustion gas that leaks past the well-worn walls of the combustion chambers. Ever stick your hand in the exhaust? I have, and my hand turns black instantly. Thats probably the same stuff that turns the oil black.
Steve Markman

This thread was discussed between 14/01/2003 and 20/01/2003

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