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MG TD TF 1500 - Overflow pipe clip

Hi everybody, my SU float bowl overflow pipes on my TF have fallen off after being shaken loose, this was because they had been shortened and weren't fixed to the engine. I want to buy new full length pipes and the clip to fix them to the block but have no idea where the clip should be fixed to! Can somebody please give me a discription please.

Ian.
Ian

Ian,

They don't clip to the block. Contrary to what I have so often seen, the two pipes go forward, (not aft) and are clipped to the engine bearer plate, pass through the hole just under the clip, and exit on the radiator side.

I can only imagine that this would be difficult to illustrate, and that is why it is not shown on any of the Moss, Abingdon, etc parts sheets. It is minimally shown however, on Plate L of the midget Series TF Parts List (AUD 804), in which the partial pipes are clearly shown to point forward. Even in the "mother" of all T-Series illustrated parts catalogue, Anglo Parts - Belgium, it is not shown. In fact, I have never seen the engine bearer plate shown in full.

So one has to go out in the garage, and have a look at one's own TF, as I have just done.

Gord Clark
Rockburn, Qu.


Gord Clark
Rockburn, Qu.
Gordon A. Clark

The routing on my TD

http://travelaire.photosite.com/MGTDRebuild/carburetors/fuel_vent_tubes_routing_front.html

YMMV

warmly,
dave
Dave Braun

Ian,

Search the archives, I am sure I recall much debate on routing overflow tubes 9 - 12 months back. Stick with the short tubes to avoid syphon effect. See "Your SU Companion" booklet available from the Octogan club in the UK. A great source of carbie info.

Regards
Graham (honorary Dave)
TD/C 7822
G.D. Smith

Ian,
On my TF the overflow pipes are held by a clip that is attached to the back side of the engine-bearer-plate at the point where the bracket plate (plate that attaches to engine mount) attaches to the bearer-plate (nomenclature in workshop manual). This clip looks like a wiring harness "P" clip except the opening is about 3/4" long (to accomodate two pipes)and wide enough for the overflow pipes. It is also plated as the wiring harnes "P" clips. Hope this helps and have a good day!

John
John Progess

Here we go again.
BEC Cunha

There is a ton of information in the archives. Search for "Carb Overflow pipes" for one lengthy thread from last year.

Larry
Larry Shoer

God, Lets not do this again.
L.A. Leclerc

Dave (Braun),

Your picture of the routing is absolutely 100% correct. I erred with respect to the positions of the clip and the hole; but then again, it’s -14̊ in my garage, and the lights were off! (no comments needed)

As the original purchaser of my TF from new, I can confidently state that no changes have been made in the overflow pipe routing.

Gord Clark
Rockburn, Qué
Gordon A. Clark

Thanks for the helpful comments guys, especially Dave with the pic. I will search the archive first next time which means becoming a member I suppose. If you don't like the thread perhaps you could not look at it or post on it?

Ian
Ian

Ian,

You're welcome for the pic, and Gordon, thank you for confirming the routing (at least on our two cars!).

Regarding you comment Ian, about not posting or reading a thread which is controversial or a repeat of previous threads, that doesn't work well with this group. The cars' caretakers who participate here are fairly particular about originality, while being very accomodating towards those who may want to vary from originality for personal reasons; a belief that they can improve on the original design; or a belief that some safety or performance item is worth adding. Overflow pipes were discussed ad naseum a while back, and like anything where factory records contradict with pictures or workshop manuals, the discussion was heated but respectful. Since most of us are sticklers for originality, it is very hard not to comment about something that we may believe has been shared incorrectly by another respected member.

It is probably a trueism that almost every conceivable topic has already been discussed at least twice on this forum. We could have responded to your request by simply pointing you to a URL, but that would have been rude in my opinion. Notice I responed with a picture and the YMMV (Your milage may vary- an expression meant to take the picture with a grain of salt, since the topic is controversial) accronym because I didn't want to start a new controversy. Knowing the personalitie of those who responded with the pithy comments brought a smile to my face because I completely understand where they are coming from, and have gained a lot from my on-line association with them.

Joining the BBS is painless and gives you access to the archives. It also has a method of bookmarking the site so you don't have to sign in each time. Also, Gordon Lawson has a link to his photosite where most of us have submitted pictures of ourselves with our cars so we can have a better idea of who we are. I hope you do join, continue to post, even the redundant ones, because that is how we all learn.

warmly,
dave
Dave Braun

Ian

Sorry, I did not realize you were new and not aware of our odd sense of humor. No offense was meant. Welcome and please do not let this put you off asking other questions.

The topic of carb pipe placement was one of our more interesting discussions.
BEC Cunha

This thread was discussed between 10/01/2007 and 12/01/2007

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