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MG MGF Technical - oil chnage on f dont use the dipstick area

morning guys just a quick post . changed the the girls oil and filter change yesterday fell for the old trick to pour through the dip stick area. not a good ideal as it double backs so went for the cap in the middle small hands needed. a rubber tube and and a funnel job done.
Darren Jeffery

What is different between your car and everyone elses ??
Geoff.F
G. Farthing

Geoff did you get out of bed the wrong side today ? chill out mate lifes too short !
dicken puller

oops upset geoff i think... i was only saying first time done an oil change her thats all know different to anyone elses motor...
Darren Jeffery

English grammer lessons for Mr Jeffery!
Harry

And you too Harry-it's grammar.
ninja

I've got to say, in this instance Mr Puller's reply is the least immature of all the above - and he's a troll!!!
Come on chaps, give a guy a break - Darren, you've probably picked up on the fact the filling technique you describe is a well accepted "norm" when it comes the 'F.
g hampson

theoil doesn't 'double back', but you should take care to make sure that the dipstick is out and that you don't fill to a level where the oil in the top-up jar is above the hole for the stick. Using this method takes time, but is less messy than using a tube and faster overall than removing the engine cover.
Will Munns

Personally, I always insist my garage drains the oil from the sump and adds fresh through the filler cap. I just feel happier if the vvc mechanism is completely immersed in oil, if only for a few minutes before it runs down to the sump.

Chris
Chris

Or;
you can remove the sump plug drain till no drips, then oil filter, run the engine for a couple of secs wait five minutes and run it again till no more black filth emerges. On with the sump plug reusing old seal, spin on new filter finger tight and load up with 4.5l of Magnatec through the dipstick filler.
As I did today. It is still lovely! :o)
C.R.B. Simeon

Jesus, you really ought to be changing your oil more often if it comes out as black filth, and thats the only thing wrong with what you have written, obviously. except for when you do up the filter it should be as tight as the gods allow, I find machining a few notches in the edge and then driving it on with a drift ensures a good solid fit that shouldn't ever come loose (and I mean ever).
Will Munns

This is unstressed motoring Will!
C.R.B. Simeon

it will be stressed unmotoring if you run the engine without oil in it!

I mean really, I thought you were joking, but I'm not 100% sure. It's really nice when you look at that lovely fresh golden syrup on the dipstick, but a little black mixed in is much more friendly than running without oil for even a few seconds.
Will Munns

I would have thought that to run any engine without oil under pressure, is an invitation for bearing failure, no matter how short the turnover time is.
rb wadwsorth

Ahem, going back to topic briefly...

Drill a 3mm hole in the cap of an empty (and washed) plastic drinks bottle, ideally a 2 litre, and cut the bottom off. Use that as your 'funnel' and the future is bright - oil will only pass through at a rate that the diptick/filler tube can cope with.
Mike Hankin

Try sticking the new can of oil on top of a house radiator for an hour before the change - hot oil=thin oil and it goes in a lot quicker when you use the dipstick filler! Also, slacken off the camcover cap first to let the engine "breath" whilst filling it. Don't forget to do it up again though!!!
Tony

I found it easier to fill up by the cap.
Being over 6" and a bit of a "big un " i wasn,t expecting to be able to reach in and undo it ..but i could just reach it with my fingers and undo it and re tighten .
I then re filled with a funnel and lengh of hose.
I was surprised how easy it was (had to do it to get to the garage when the head gasket had gone)
With Gareths help i can now bleed the cooling system...
and with Wills help a while ago i can now use a set of axle stands/ramps without making droping the f on my noggin.
Its good to do a certain amount of our own maintenance .
Cheers guys
Mel
m e johnson

>Also, slacken off the camcover cap first to let the
>engine "breath" whilst filling it. Don't forget to do it
>up again though!!!

there should be no need for this, there is a tube to vent the crankcase to the airfilter and the inlet manifold, so adding oil will not cause pressure to build in the crankcase (or if it does you have other problems)
Will Munns

Mr Munns

Not too sure just what goes on over there in Texas... You wrote above:

"when you do up the filter it should be as tight as the gods allow, I find machining a few notches in the edge and then driving it on with a drift ensures a good solid fit that shouldn't ever come loose (and I mean ever)."

For the uninitiated, can we just put the record straight here. Oil filters on MGF's are done up hand-tight, which under my car means as tight as possible until the hand slips on the filter casing. They do not come loose. A filter wrench is always needed to remove them.

Pete
Pete Tipping

Pete you will learn through time that Mr Munns has an addiction to addding to threads, mostly for no apparant reason. If you say something is black he will say its more of a charcoal or a grey just for the sake of posting. Nit picking at its best. I once heard he went to buy a leather jacket and was so @nal about the whole episode he even wanted to know the name of the cow it came from.
dicken puller

Pete,
Will is taking to the superlative. Is there really a need to have a discussion amongst the experts on 'How to change the oil and filter on an MGF'.
Hose pipe and funnel !!. I worry when DIYers play with their cars. 'Which spanner do I need to buy to change the Spark plugs'?? 'How do I bleed the brakes after changng the pads'?? etc. etc. 'Fell for the old trick'!! LOL.
Geoff F.
G. Farthing

Geoff f ..you posted...

>i worry when diyers play with there cars<
>is there really a need to have a discusion amongst the experts <
>which spanners do i need to buy to change the spark plugs< etc .etc etc,,..........

Geoff ..You seem to enjoy "being an expert".
your first reply to Darren was IMHO "rude".
He took the time to post on hear to possibly help others and gets a "whats different about your car than everyone else,s??
As Dick puller says "chill out mate"
You answered a post i did with a "clearly it is beyond your diy capabilities " on the B&G water sensor i,d recently purchased.
To note it was not beyound my "Diy capabilites" and thankfully B&g did not think so either and sent me the replacement part that was faulty and it worked a treat.
Once again thanks for the reply but....
Please give new owners and in you opinion "non experts" to this site a chance to give there thoughts / opinions without making them look as thick as a Gurka,s F**skin .
We all have to start somewhere .
If the MG mark is to continue , the friendly nature by which the mg mark is all about should surely be just that "friendly ".



M.
m e johnson

many thanks.
again i thought it was rude but did not want to get into an argument.
darren
Darren Jeffery

This thread was discussed between 02/12/2006 and 18/12/2006

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