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MG MGF Technical - Loudspeakers in MGF are quite satisfactory actually

Don't know how I finally managed it, but - KABOOM - this weekend my Alpine car-hifi blew one of my Boston high-end loudspeakers of my MGF. Seems like these Boston's are not thàt invincible as I thought. Though I have certainly no boom-car (except for the head gasket on already two occassions - Aha, finally we discovered the cause of HGF: hifi (bass) resonance having adverse effects on head gasket endurance ! ;-)

Removed the blown loudspeaker on the driver's side and noticed indeed a 1 cm tiny crack originating from the middle of the loudspeaker cone. It's particularly that small crack which caused an annoying buzzing noise in the lower frequency sounds (bass-sound); was no fun anymore listening to the recent excellent mellow jazzy quality-housy 'n bossa grooves on the 2xCD compilation "Jazzanova - The Remixes 1997-2000". Bass became buzz :-(

I replaced both Boston's (costed me approx. 185 UKP back in 1996) by the original MGF-loudspeakers (which had never played one note in my MGF to date) and hey, these MGF aren't that bad after all in comparison to the Boston's. Are these MGF stock-loudspeakers manufactured by Rover or from some other brand ? Still sounds pretty okay. Of course I kept the separate 'eyeball-ish' tweeters (located on the outskirts of the dashboard in either corner of the windscreen). The loudspeakers nicely keep up with the middle and lower frequency tones. The Boston-tweeters do their job regarding the high frequency tones. Pfew, glad I didn't throw away the original MGF-loudspeakers the day I installed the Boston's, or I had to cough up dosh for new audio-toys if I wanted to continue to enjoy a buzz-free loudspeaker sound.

My advice for those concerned about hifi-audio in their MGF: actually no real need for investment in MGF-loudspeakers, but though go find some additional 'eyeball-ish' tweeters which you install on the outskirts of the dashboard in either corner of the windscreen. For some background-noise, combine with a sports exhaust and airfilter of your choice.

...and go check out that Jazzanova 2xCD remix compilation :)))

Cheers,
Luc
Luc


Sorry, got to disagree.

The originals are good, but if you get a decent setup then the standard ones
sound poo in comparison.

But hey, the world would be a boring place if we all agreed and liked the same sounds!
:-)

P.
Paul Nothard

Weel the original speakers could put up with the Phillips 12x2 watt or so output quite well but now I have a Kenwood Minidisk with 45x4 watt output the spakers are showing their limitations already and the tonal response is lousy.

Anyway, I still use the originals until I get round to getting some decent speakers set up. I think I'm going for a four speaker (+two tweeters) setup when I get a job :-)
Tony Smith

I am not sure as to the origin of the OE speakers- I suspect they're made by Goodmans.

I fitted replacement Kenwoods- as listed on the MGF FAQ. These have better bass, mid and high range- but the bass is really REALLY buzzy with the standard head unit. Situation improved with sound deadening material in the doors, but it is still disappointing.

Problem with the speaker mounting?
Problem with the speakers?
Problem with the power output of the standard head unit?

Dunno the answer here- any suggestions anyone? My thoughts are that the head unit isn't man enough for the job.

Rob
Rob Bell


How sealed in are the speakers Rob ?

The guys that fitted mine were in the process of fixing a botched install when I
arrived (to a Boxter no less! Yum!).
The problem was that the speakers hadn't been sealed in properly.. a glue gun had been
used with poor results at the other place.

Anyways, they fixed it and the owner was reportedly very happy.

Might be worth a look ?

P.
Paul Nothard

Hi Luc,

nothing more to add but, coincidentically, I bought the Jazzanova last Saturday - what a good sound.............:-)))

Marcus
Marcus

Rob, personally i would say theres a good chance the problem is with the head unit.

a poor unit will never be able to do good speakers justice. I have not changed the speakers yet, i thought i would wait until i broke them. I changed the head unit within an hour of having the car and instantly a huge improvement and i have been happy with the sound ever since.

Matt

Infinity Kappas ... accept nothing less ...
Gaz

I would imagine they would source the speakers from Phillips as they would no doubt get a better price ordering them as a set, head unit and speakers. It's hard to tell, so many common brand names are owned by Phillips - Grundig, Pye to name but two, not sure about Goodmans though.

The kenwood head is a lot better than the standard Phillips unit and requires much better speakers. I will say though that the standard speakers are not the worst I have used by any means and are quite suitable to someone wanting to listen to the Radio on the way to work in the morning. At least they don't distort as soon as they get the slightest hint of bass like some I have tried over the years.
Tony Smith

Hi,

gimme instructions please :)
what in heaven is the 'Jazzanova'. Any web-link availiable ?

Tweeter seperate. Is was very satisfied with my old MGF and the tweeters mounted to the top of the screen frame cover.
Traffic messages could be heard at open rides until up to higher speeds.
http://home.t-online.de/home/dkoen/tweeter.htm
still omline. Use the translator button to get the most funny translation ;-)

Marcus, did you ever look for the activ bass from Blaupunkt, type CMS 265 for about 125EUR ? It should fit under the drivers seat. Some Germans tried it already and the are impressed.

The Bostons where recommended here also from some friends.

BTW if someone needs a single orininal MGF doorspeaker, I've still got one from the wreck in my cellar. ;-) 15EUR and p+p and its yours.

What I really miss here are reports on the speaker quality of the MY2000 modell, cause I don't wanna screw again around at all that cars parts. And I WANT one.
Hasn't anyone done a comparison ?

Cheers
Dieter
PS. currently with Boom, Boom in a Fiesta. xxxWatts installed by my sons.
Dieter Koennecke

What size are the standard speakers anyway?

thanks
Adam

The excellent 2xCD album entitled "Jazzanova - The Remixes 1997-2000" (equally available on 5xLP) consists of 20 groovy remixes by Jazzanova. Jazzanova is a combo of 6 Berlin-based skilled musicians which reconstruct a record from scratch (post-production) and call that a remix. They are that obsessed by perfect sounds that one remix sometimes takes them up to three months. Significant jazzy and funky sound continuously combining jazz-instruments with swell sexy synths and deep bass. Clean & pure quality-soundscapes. Generally rather downtempo, with bossa nova influences from time to time. In other words: cool deep jazz taken down to the modern dancefloor. If you like the sound of Incognito and The Brand New Heavies, the double-CD of these Germans will almost certainly not disappoint you.

Check the description (+ cheerful press quotes):
http://www.compost-records.com/sections/jcr/jcr_arti/jazanova.htm

Cheers,
Luc
Luc

160mm, (nearly 6.5').
Two way speaker with a capacitor in serial with the tweeter.
Covered in a plastic case.
http://home.t-online.de/home/dkoen/speaker/
http://members.surfline2000.com/mgf-net/defects/box.jpg
(made a slot cut to the case that time to let the water drain out) :)

HTH
Dieter
Dieter Koennecke

Luc,
many thanx. I see I need to get the Jazzanova :)
Just only to be the opposite to my oldest son 'el-t-mo' ;-)
'mr magista' and 'don k-li' are his best friends :-/ = HipHop, Reggae & Drum and Bass as mixture.

Try, http://www.nufurms.de ond you may imagine the contend of the Fiesta's 10CD changer. My son often drives with that car to any of that DJ sessions and his CDs always remain in the changer ;-)

Boom, boom.
Dieter
Dieter Koennecke

>>How sealed in are the speakers Rob ?<<

Good question Paul. I fitted them myself, into the existing water shield-come-speaker mount. The OE speakers were glued into place, and had metal tabs to finish the job off. Easily removed. I put the replacements into the housing, fixing them in with four self tapping screws. So the speaker is pretty well fixed in there, but one may doubt the rigidity/ torsional stiffness of the original mount. I know that Sarah recommends making up a custom MDF mount- so something for me to consider, certainly.

>>a poor unit will never be able to do good speakers justice.<<

My thoughts too Matt. May be replacing the head unit in the near future, so time will tell. The new Sony units are putting out 50W per channel, I see :o). I'd guess that the OE Phillips can barely manage 20!

Adam, the OE speakers are 6.5" (or 165 mm in new money) in diameter.

Cheers

Rob
Rob Bell

>>a poor unit will never be able to do good speakers justice.<<

As indicated, I got an Alpine head-unit, which explains why the sound emanating from the loudspeakers is satisfactory.

Cheers,
Luc
Luc

This thread was discussed between 05/11/2000 and 07/11/2000

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