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MG Midget and Sprite Technical - 1098 clutch pipe options

Hi,

hopefully a quick question!

I'm just starting to fit all new hydraulics on my clutch system, and am not sure of what to fit! (It was dismantled in 1989!)

Anyway, I've put new pushrod, clevis pin and slave cylinder onto the gearbox and am stuck with the pipe to the m/cylinder.

I know that the 1275 midgets use a flexi rubber hose to a bracket on the chassis leg near the starter motor, then a rigid metal pipe to the m/cylinder.

I cannot remember if the 1098 does use this flexi hose though or if its just a metal pipe to the m/cylinder? I have a recollection of a rigid copper pipe with several coils bent in it to reduce movement/flexing with teh engine?

Any ideas? as I am hoping to connect it all up next weekend.

PS I actually got the engine to turn over tonight under its own power! (no carbs or water pipes fitted yet though, so hopefully it will run soon too!)

John


John Collins

S'nice John

answer to your question was lurking inside Lara's bonnet all evening on Wednesday

Assuming that you will use the double cylinder half house brick master

From Leacey's you want an adapter ACB9641, which will allow the 1/4" pipe for a 1275 setup to fit the exit port on the cylinder.
You want the clutch pipe from a 1275 (1/4" diameter one)
You want the flexible ribbed rubber pipe to the slave cylinder which screws directly into the slave cylinder body
Ideally you want a small bracket at the right place on the chassis to hold the pipes steady. I welded one on with the pipes in place and got it at the wrong angle so I didnt use one, it didnt hurt my car cos I went concentric shortly afterwards. Look into having that on the chassis

sequence
master cylinder: adapter: 1/4" pipe: rubber flexi hose: slave cylinder end: job done very quickly

You can still see the pipe arrangement 'cos I left it like that with an extension for the concentric set up


Bill

Mine had the rigid pipe and no flex hose, before it was converted to Datsun 5-speed.
Bas Timmermans

Thanks for info,

Bill, I like the diagram, But... I have a new 1275 flexi hose and it won't screw into the 1098cc slave cylinder! it seems to be just a bit too big? This is why its thrown me and made me think that it may be a rigid one piece pipe as Bas mentions? maybe this is why there is no bracket on the chassis for the flexi hose?

I am using the dual master cylinder for what its worth.

I'm beginning to get confused in my haste to build the car up as I have 1098 midget parts, 1275 midget parts and 1500 midget parts in my garage as well as odds and ends from 1500 spitfires and MGF's and morris minors all mixed in for good effect so I am trying to use the right parts for my car!

John

PS, another pic of my progress attached!


John Collins

John, yes it should be the fixed pipe with a couple of coils in it for your year...
David Smith(davidDOTsmithATstonesDOTcom

John,
Get those door straps secured - you don't want a crease in your door pillar ! looking really nice now.
Geoff Mears (1970 Midget)

OK John if the 1275 pipe doesnt fit the slave you have there're two options for you

1: have my new 1275 slave that will fit your pipes or
2: fit a 1098 slave with a longer brake pipe sized hose with a couple of loops in it, as David says

Lara did have the old proper type at first but when I went Type9 needed the later type slave as an attempt to stop the pedal problems I was having

Since it didnt work and my clutch packed up before I went concentric (remember the evening when the clutch packed up again?) I should have both slaves around if you want it/them...

Gizza shout

:-)
Bill

Once again, thanks to all for taking time to reply (it always amazes me how helpful and useful this board is)

Bill, thanks for offer of parts.

I have already put on a new 1098 slave cylinder, so will make up a new rigid pipe at the weekend and put several coils in it when fitting it in place.

I'm also going to make up a remote bleed for this too.

Thanks again,
John
John Collins

This thread was discussed between 07/04/2008 and 08/04/2008

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